People love to talk about clarity—how to get it, how to keep it, where to find it. But here's the thing: clarity rarely shows up when everything is going smoothly. It arrives in the messy, uncomfortable moments you'd rather avoid.
Kris Rice talks with Jennifer Sutton about how one cold plunge changed the direction of her entire life and led her to build ChillPod from scratch. She didn't have manufacturing experience. She didn't have a hardware background. She didn't even have a clear plan.
What she had was gut instinct, curiosity, and a brain that desperately needed a reset.
While navigating her daughter’s mental health challenges, managing her own anxiety, and trying to hold everything together, Kris stumbled into cold plunge therapy. That moment in a metal horse trough became the turning point. It pushed her to create a real product—and figure out overseas manufacturing—even when she had no idea what she was doing.
Kris proves that the answers you're searching for tend to show up when you finally stop long enough to listen. There’s always a moment when the next move becomes obvious—not because it’s easy, but because the discomfort forces you to see what really matters.
Her story is a reminder that you probably already know what to do next. You just don’t trust it yet.
If you're stuck in your own messy middle waiting for a sign, this conversation might be exactly what you need.
🎧 Hit play and hear how Kris turned a breakdown into a breakthrough.
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